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Plant Breeding Projects / Re: Promiscuously Pollinating Tomatoes
« on: 2016-February-16 03:21:46 PM »
Fantastic photo's Joseph! Amazing work!

Found this interesting article today. Wish i could read the whole thing, but i would need to pay $40. Seems it's a rare article and rare subject of research dating back to 1924. However the long styled highly outcrossing tomato variety mentioned in the extract "Magnus" apparently is still around and was nearly lost.

Joseph, are there an crops that you are particularly interested in gaining more diversity?

From what i can tell you are looking for more and better shelling peas, early dwarf peas, and various dry beans. Anything else i should keep an eye out for?

Plant Breeding Projects / Re: Runner Beans
« on: 2016-February-13 12:25:24 PM »
Joseph, is there a benefit to growing Runner beans other than they are another genetically diverse crop?

Those inter species hybrids sound interesting. I think its completely possible that wild tomatoes could have more flavor than the ones humans have been breeding for so long.

One that i'm looking into now are the galapagos island tomatoes. Apparently there are two, a yellow and an orange. (Solanum cheesmaniae and S. galapagense). They sound particularly interesting because they have genetics for drought and high-salinity. And apparently they are highly prized by Galapagos tortoises. So i'm now looking into them. If i manage to acquire some seeds would you be interested in those?

As far your promiscuously pollinated tomatoes i think those are also an interesting project. I think introducing more variation to the flowers could help attract bees even more. I've been talking with Carolyn. She's seen white blossoms, ivory blossoms, various shades of yellow from pale to gold and one that has blossoms which have a gold stripe in the center of each petal. Hopefully i can get the names of what varieties those are. The striped petal sounds very interesting.

Plant Breeding Projects / Re: Runner Beans
« on: 2016-January-31 04:03:56 PM »
How is a runner bean different than a pole bean, or are they the same?

I've only attempted to grow them once, but i may plant some again this year. Runner Beans are a separate species than the common bean. Phaseolus coccineus instead of the more common Phaseolus vulgaris. Runner beans are generally larger beans. Other than that i dont know much about them. One variety that has done well for me is the Four Corners Scarlet Runner Bean. It is slightly smaller than other runner beans i've seen.

Joseph. This is a great topic, and one i'd like to discuss more on in greater depth. I too am against growing heirlooms just because they are heirlooms. And like you, most do poorly in my garden and climate too. Finding any tomato that grows well and produces abundantly (or at least more than scantily) is a miracle. I will admit my tomato skills are lacking though and i should put more effort into the species.

But there does seem to be something to the fact that heirloom tomatoes do taste better. I personally like the strange lumpy multicolored ones. Sometimes with dark shading. I think its more than just avoiding store bred anti ripening genes. I think they have more complex flavors.

I once tried growing cherokee purple. It grew pitifully. But in hindsight since cherokee purple is so widely grown i do now wonder if the seeds i had were adapted for eastern gardens or oregon gardens, etc. Perhaps there is a source out there with a more regionally adapted one that could work.

I also had a thought for you. Perhaps now that you have some tomatoes that grow well for you you could grow some of these good tasting but maladapted heirloom varieties in your greenhouse and make some deliberate crosses. Eventually perhaps you could reap some tasty genes from tomatoes that would otherwise be impossible to grow.

I too am tired of red tomatoes and perfectly sphericle tomatoes. I generally like yellow and orange better. I also kind of liked those P20 blue tomatoes i grew that one year. Perhaps a yellow base with P20 (now indigo rose) blue tops would be very good (and colorful)... Perhaps it would be similar to the red podded peas... Yellow bottom but purple tops sort of equal red...


Topics that I intend to cover include seed saving, isolation distances, genetic diversity, heirlooms, making and using hybrids, inbreeding depression, non-traditional food crops, plant purity, landrace development and maintenance, seed localization, and using wild relatives. There will be plenty of examples of what worked for me, and what failed.

Next week’s post will be a photo essay showing off some of my successful attempts to create landraces localized to my valley. I’ll include commentary about the collaboration network that developed around a project to develop cold tolerant melons.

I realize you haven't got to this yet perhaps because of life circumstances or whatnot, but i'm always intrigued to read such articles. :)

Status of the Farm and the Farmer / Re: Major Life Modification
« on: 2016-January-29 11:59:35 AM »
glad to hear your doing well. Finding peace and tranquility i believe is one of the most important things a person can do for ones health. It's not always easy to find, but necessary.

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